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Sobriety, Purity, and the Power of Obedience | Guest: Alicia Cairns
Is sobriety and waiting for marriage really worth it? In this episode, I sit down with one of my best friends (and the creative genius behind the Bible Bish logo + website), Alicia Taylor.
Alicia gets real about what it looked like to obey God when He asked her to give up alcohol, choose purity in her relationship, and even surrender her wedding plans-fully trusting Him with the relationship itself, even if it meant it wouldn’t last. Her yes to Him wasn’t easy, but the fruit has been undeniable.
We talk about the scary moments, the breakthroughs, and why obedience isn’t just rules... it’s the doorway to joy, freedom, and a rich life with Jesus.
If you’ve ever wrestled with obedience or wondered what you might be holding onto, this conversation is for you.
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when you hear the word obedience, it sounds scary. Why would I wanna obey someone? I just wanna do what I want. Like we're living in a world where everyone's let's just do what we want all the time, I've done that. I've done it my own way. I've done whatever I want for so many years. this year in particular is the year that I've walked the most in obedience. And it has been the best year of my life. Ah,
Kayley:Hello, hello. Welcome to Bible Bish. I am so happy today because I'm gonna be interviewing one of my best friends and she is, uh, not a long time friend. She's more of like a short time friend. We haven't been very, very close for very long, but it's one of those things where Holy Spirit just is that beautiful tether, and when you find someone that just knows him that intimately and you connect on that level, it it just, it's like a kingdom friendship. And there's just something different about a kingdom friendship. And not only is she my friend, but she's actually my graphic designer. She's the one who designed this glorious Bible Bish logo. She helped design, uh, some merch and she designed my entire website and it's been amazing to do life with her in this season and to create this podcast with her. Uh, but we're gonna talk about obedience today, but before we do, this is my dear friend Alicia Cairns slash Taylor, because she did just get married. It's not legally changed to Taylor yet, but we're working on it.
Alicia:And I had to wear the logo today.
Kayley:You had to wear the logo. Yeah, it's fitting,
Alicia:It's my gift.
Kayley:she is, she's a, a lover of all pink things. And so I gave her this sweatshirt today just to say thank you and also, you know, in case she wanted to wear it on the podcast. Anyway, let's talk about obedience. Um, originally when I was thinking about having Alicia on the podcast, I really wanted to talk about friendship and kingdom friendship. Um, but she's like, Kayley, you know what? The Lord just keeps putting obedience on my heart and I really think I need to tell my story about that. And I said, let's go. before we do, will you just, I know it's not necessarily a short story, but will you tell people like, yeah, how you came to the Lord?'cause it's really interesting.
Alicia:Yeah, it's like, it's interesting because it's not like I had an aha moment. Like a lot of people, they have this like moment where they're like, this is when I gave my life to the Lord. And it wasn't like that. It was like I kind of grew up Catholic. And my whole childhood, I like knew who Jesus was. I knew the story, but I didn't know what having a relationship with him was. I just knew religion.
Kayley:Mm-hmm.
Alicia:And you know, I kind of knew that all through like elementary school, high school, you know, I went to mass, I confessed my sins in a box to a guy, and which was so uncomfortable. And I was just like, I don't, I don't understand this. And so I think like later in my twenties I was still kind of pursuing something. I just didn't know what. Mm. And I kind of went down like a bit of a darker path. Like I just decided to kind of do my own thing. Mm-hmm. For a little bit. And then I ended up kind of getting into more like new age witchcraft, which I would classify as witchcraft. Now, at the time I didn't know I was doing that, but it kind of started slowly in stages. And then over time I just started doing more to the point where I was like. Had to rely on tarot cards, horoscopes every single day. I was like trying to find whatever I was looking for in that. Mm. Trying to get answers from something. But what I noticed, like over time, like no matter how many things I would use, whether it was the cards, you know, sage, crystals, whatever object I could use, um, I even started a page at one point where I was like pouring into people about spirituality.
Kayley:Wait, where? On a website?
Alicia:On Facebook.
Kayley:On facebook. You, what was the page called?
Alicia:Something about loving yourself.
Kayley:Oh my gosh. Wow. I didn't even know this. Yeah. Okay, interesting.
Alicia:So I started that. But like, and I feel like for a moment it gave me like bits of happiness because I was pursuing something. So it was like a new thing.
Kayley:You felt purposeful.
Alicia:Yeah. I felt like I, there was purpose there and I was pursuing something, but it wasn't until like over time, like I probably was doing this for like, I would say three, four years. Wow. And over time I noticed I was getting more anxiety, I was getting more depression. I started lusting. I was in relationships my whole life. I started lusting. I started at one point, even got into porn. Just like all these things, all these negative things started to come. Wow. And I didn't recognize it at the time, but I was like, what am I doing with my life? Like, I'm just like, what, what am I doing? And then I think slowly over time, like I kind of got sprinkled with God here and there.
Kayley:Mm-hmm.
Alicia:Um, like I had a friend from childhood who came to the Lord and she kind of brought me to church a couple times. Um, so it was really spread out. Okay. I even had a boyfriend in high school that his brother was a pastor and his other brother would just like read the Bible. And I was always just like, that's interesting. But I only knew it as Catholic. Mm. I only knew it as like going and listening to this guy say the same thing at every service with no relationship. So I think I just kept disregarding it. And it wasn't until I started my relationship that I'm in now with my husband that we started to see God work in our lives, um, little by little. And he has like a lot of profound encounters. So a lot of it's like intertwined and, and I won't get into all the details of that because I would be here all day, but, but I think when those moments started to happen and when they were happening, while we were together, I was like, something's going on here. Yeah. And I think I just realized like, there's something to this. Mm. And I just slowly, like, honestly, I hated reading. I was like, I don't, I don't wanna read the Bible. Like, that sounds so boring. I don't like reading any books.
Kayley:We actually talked about this. Yeah. You're like, you don't like reading at all. And I love to read, but you love to read the Bible
Alicia:now. But I started, I was always a movie person, so someone told me to get the Bible app. So I started with that and I started doing plans. And I would kind of like grasp some stuff. Like I would just like do a plan here and there and then I'd try a Bible in the year and I felt like I was just listening and wasn't really taking it in.
Kayley:Interesting.
Alicia:And then eventually I just like reached a point, I think after just having so many encounters and him just being so obvious. Mm. I was like, maybe I need to like really dive in and just like see where this takes me.
Kayley:But what did diving in look like and when did you get rid of tarot cards?
Alicia:Yeah.'cause I, I think I was still pursuing, like, I think I was curious about God, but still dabbling in new age. So I think once I started reading the Bible, God started to reveal the truth to me. Okay. And I just got, I guess, convicted. I probably didn't know it was conviction at the time, but I just got convicted to stop like, I don't need these anymore, you know?
Kayley:Wow.
Alicia:Now thinking back, I'm like, I don't, I just kind of stopped at one point. And even like my husband was like, you should get those outta the house. There're. They're evil. So like he already knew, right? Yeah. He didn't even know why, but he knew they were evil. Um, yeah. And then I just, I don't know, I just started reading the Bible every day. And then I think what happened is I started to encounter God. Mm. Like it literally came alive and I just started to like experience how good he is. Mm. And then once you experience that, then you just wanna keep reading more. Mm. And praying more. And then it just almost became an obsession. Like I just wanted to read my Bible every single day. And then it got to a point in 2023 where I decided to get baptized. And then after that I did a fast, like a four. I didn't, I still ate, but I did a 40 day fast with my church. And after that I was, I got kind of convicted to start a Bible page, which I call Woman with a Bible. and I just go on Instagram and I kind of share scripture. And one day when I was doing one of those videos I was reading in Matthew and he kind of showed me that I kind of walked the same path as Jesus.'cause Jesus got baptized and then he did a 40 day fast, and then he was led into temptation. And that's like the exact order that I experienced it. And in that moment I was like, oh, whoa, I'm living the same.
Kayley:So what was the temptation?
Alicia:I don't know if it was temptation or just like the enemy was just trying to attack me. Wow. Anyway, he could, like, I just felt like there was a lot of hardship after a lot of testing after my fast and after I got baptized.
Kayley:Wow. Mm-hmm. everyone's testimony is really different. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't say that my testimony has like a cataclysmic. Oh my goodness. Yeah. This is when it all started. And there are some people where they have like a near death experience and then they see Yeah. Jesus or something and they come back to life and they're like, oh my gosh, I have to live for him now. And yeah, for me it was kind of similar to yours, like I grew up in a religious experience without like knowing of God, not knowing him personally. And it wasn't until like my crazy divorce and my crazy emo emotional affair that everything changed for me and I gave up Lordship over myself and gave it to him. And so I just, I think you're not alone. It's so interesting. I think sometimes we get a little ashamed of our story as well. Yeah. Like we don't have anything big to to say, but that's honestly not the case. Yeah. I mean, after being your friend and like walking with you through just this last season, yeah. You've got so much to share. And so with that being said, Alicia. I want you to talk about the ways in which obedience has changed your life. And I know like it's been a huge word and a huge theme for you right now. And so I guess to dive in, I want you to tell me what is the hardest Yes. You ever had to say,
Alicia:well, there's so much on this topic because I feel like this is just what I've been living out. And I think at first the word can sound so scary. Mm-hmm. But it's really not. Mm-hmm. Because you're just walking with the Lord and you're just choosing his way for you over your own. Yeah. And I already did it my way. Yeah. I already did it my way for 30 years and it didn't work. So I was like, I need to try the Lord's way. But the hardest one, I mean, there was, there was a time before. I'm like, maybe I should share the first time, which led to, okay, this one.
Kayley:Well, that's kind of what it, what it is, right? Yeah. Like you obey and then you're like, wow, like my life is better. And so obedience in a way becomes easier, but it's still really hard. Yeah. Because you do harder things, but you know that there's a reward to it. So Yeah. What was that first thing?
Alicia:So the first one that I can remember vividly, I'm like, I'm sure there's probably other moments, but I was actually, I tend to do this a lot. I'll like pace around my island and pray and just talk to God. And I felt in my spirit strongly. And he's just like, you're never gonna drink again. And I was just kind of like, did, did I hear that right? Like what? It wasn't, I don't think it was anything audibly. I think it was just in my spirit I knew like that was the Lord saying like, you're just not gonna do this anymore. And I was like, is this gonna be like, like a week or a couple months? Because like I never have an, had an issue with drinking. Like it was never really an issue for me. I just thought it was interesting that he was calling me to that, but eventually I was just like, no. Like he, he wants me to never drink again. And
Kayley:you tried to drink after you heard that, right?
Alicia:Yeah. So I literally, that night went to a friend's and she gave me a glass of wine and I drank I think maybe one or two glasses, which was normal. Like I can drink one to two glasses and be fine. Um, but on my way home I felt sick to my stomach, like sick and I never get sick off wine. And I, in that moment I was like, I was disobedient.
Kayley:Ugh. And that almost makes the heart sick too.
Alicia:Yeah, it made my spirit sick and I was physically sick and I was like, I don't know why you're calling me to do this, but you have to have a reason for it. There's gotta be a reason. Um, and then I think slowly after that, honestly, he just took my desire away to drink. Wow. I just have no urge to drink at all.
Kayley:What do you think the fruit of that obedience has been?
Alicia:I think just like there's been, there's been so many blessings that have come from that.
Kayley:I mean, 'cause your testimony is really shaped by that. Yeah. You, you talk about the Lord a lot to people and most of your community, they know you don't drink anymore.
Alicia:Yeah. I think too, I'm around like, especially being in Nashville. Mm-hmm. Um, I'm just around of it a lot. I'm around a lot of drinking. I mean, I think it's come to the point where people know that I don't drink and they accept it, but at first people are like, how are you having fun? And like, how can you come to a bar?'cause I would go to bars a lot and people are like, how do you come to a bar and just not drink? I'm like, I don't need to have a drink to have fun. Like literally have fun with the Lord.
Kayley:I feel like that's the biggest misconception, like Yeah. Oh, when you follow Jesus, you don't, you can't drink, you can't have sex, you can't have all these things that you really would want. Yeah. But the truth is, is like I have way, much, way more fun abstaining from those things and doing what God is asking me to do. There's something so fulfilling about it.'cause I've had similar experiences where I felt like God was like, I don't want you to drink anymore. And I mean, I also never really drank, I didn't start drinking until, yeah. I was like 30. And I, it's introduced. I know it's, I, I started introducing it into my lifestyle, but my family has a history of alcoholism and abusing it. Yeah. And, and really not behaving well with it. And so I just, I found myself dabbling, like out of curiosity, I guess. And then. At one point, not too long ago, maybe last year or the year before, God's like, Hey, uh, by the way, you're not holding that glass of wine anymore. You're actually hugging it. And there's a big difference in that. And he goes, you're never gonna get true comfort from me if you don't let go of that wine. Yeah. And it just like that the Lord was saying, you're now slipping into relying on it for something. Yeah. And I actually wanna be what you rely on for all of your comfort, all of your needs. And um, that was a big wake up call for me. And ever since then, it's been me like practicing abstaining from it. And then I'll have another, and then God will lead me to another thing of, Hey, I really want this to not be in your life. And I'm like, wow, okay. So we have to walk the road of, okay, I'm not going to drink at all. It's not gonna be a part of my life. And I'm okay with that because it wasn't a part of my life for so many years. But I don't know.
Alicia:It's a social thing.
Kayley:Yeah. It's, it is a social thing and, but I think bigger than the social thing, it's the testimony thing. Yeah. Of I am publicly proclaiming and declaring my faith in Jesus. Mm-hmm. And my relationship with him. And I think because of that, the Lord really wants me to live a blameless life. Yeah. And I remember he had given me Psalm 1 0 1 as like, kind of like a, a statement of faith in a way. And, and it says like, I will live a blameless life. And obviously I can't do that out of my own humanity. I can't do that out of my own strength 'cause I'm human. Yeah. And I'm fallible. And, but the thing is, is like anything that the Lord puts on your heart to do, he will also supply you with the strength to do it. Yeah. And I have just continued to see that and, and it's, you know, the idea of living a blameless life, he's gonna help me do that. Yeah. But I think as long as I have a platform people are gonna be going to me to look, to hear the word of God. To hear the message. To hear Godly wisdom. Yeah. And it's hard to receive that wisdom if you also see me. Yeah. Actively drinking. I just think that's gonna be hard. And I think that's part of the reason why he's Yeah. Drawn you to sobriety. It's just
Alicia:like we're called to be more like Christ. So it's like in that, it's like even holding a drink. Like even sometimes I'm skeptical with a mocktail.'cause I'm like, is someone gonna be thinking I'm drinking? And it's not like, it's like, 'cause I have to follow the rules. Yeah. It's not that. It's like what am I representing to other people? Like I live in a life of so much freedom and peace with God. Yeah. That it's like I just want more people to have that.
Kayley:Yeah.
Alicia:I just wanna be a good representation of who Jesus was. Yeah. Yeah. And you don't wanna
Kayley:create stumbling blocks for people. No.
Alicia:Exactly. Like people who, there could be people I'm around that are having an issue with drinking. Yeah. And it's like, because I'm not drinking, maybe that encourages them mm-hmm. To decide not to drink. Yeah. If they're having that. Sure. You know, versus like, let's go out for a drink or Yeah. Like, okay, sure. Let's do that. You know? Like, I just feel like, and also it's, it's called Spirits for a reason. Yeah. I know. You're literally inviting in darkness.
Kayley:Yeah. Well,
Alicia:and it's like a portal.
Kayley:You're under the influence. The influence of what Yeah. The influence of what. Yeah. And like we can be under the influence of the Lord. Yeah. Or we can be under the influence of the world. Yeah. And like when you get blackout drunk, which I've actually never been, I've only ever been like really buzzed. Yeah. I don't know. I've,
Alicia:it's not pleasant. It's not pleasant.
Kayley:I can't imagine like, no waking up and not knowing what I did the night before. Yeah. And feeling like, oh my goodness, who do I need to apologize to? I don't even know. Yeah. I wasn't with it.
Alicia:It's just the feeling alone the next day. Yeah. That is terrible. Yes. That's one thing I don't miss at all. Wow. But, and I've been blacked out. I've done, I've experienced times where I don't remember the night and it's like, what did I do? Yeah. You know? Yeah. Did I make a fool of myself? Yeah. Like, kinda sucks. It's just not something. No.
Kayley:And I've, I have, like, it says, like, don't be drunk on wine, but be drunk on the spirit. Mm-hmm. But it's, it's like, it's not about being drunk, it's about being like under the influence. Yeah. And man, there are moments where I get so high with the Holy Spirit mm-hmm. That it's, I mean, you feel like you, you're floating
Alicia:Some people think that we're drunk.
Kayley:I know. I, I feel like electric. Yeah. On the inside. And I feel like I can do anything. Um, but it's all righteous. It's all, yeah. It's all, oh, I can do anything. I can do good.
Alicia:More powerful.
Kayley:I can do any good thing. Mm-hmm. And, um, I just, I just love that. Yeah. Okay. So obedience with alcohol was like the first domino. Yeah. And then what are the other dominoes that have fallen since?
Alicia:So the biggest one, which is like, not always easy to talk about, but I think it's important because it has literally transformed my whole life. And so I've been with my now husband for like eight years and growing up in Canada, we, you know, everything was like, move in with your partner before you get married, you know, have sex before marriage. Like that was all normal. Mm-hmm. And that's kind of what we were doing for the first, you know, seven years. And I remember one day I came home and God clearly was like, 'cause, and I was, I was already engaged at this time, starting to plan my wedding.
Kayley:And y'all had bought a house too, you were
Alicia:Yeah, we bought a house together. We were living together, you know, sleeping in the same bed. God's like, you know, I feel like the drinking was like the first step Yeah. To like kind of see like, would I do that? And then all of a sudden he's like, I want you to wait till marriage. And that was terrifying because I'm like, well, what is, what is he gonna think? Like the world promotes sex. Yeah. You know? Yeah. That's, that's what the world promotes is like, you know, sleep with all these people, go out and party date multiple people. Like that's just what the world is. And it's like, so by doing that, I literally had to choose God first. And I think I reached a point where I was like, it is more important for me to be obedient to God than to a please man.
Kayley:Mm. Had you ever put God first in your relationship at that point?
Alicia:I don't think so. Wow. I mean, I think. I can't remember. No, it would've been after that. I feel like after I got that conviction, I decided to move forward with that. Um, and then at the beginning of this year, I surrendered my relationship to him. I like, I'm like, I just want you to be in control. I want you to plan everything. I don't know what's gonna happen and I'm just gonna trust you. Yeah. And just like, I feel like this year is like the year of surrender. Mm. And obedience basically. Um, but it was, it was hard. It was,
Kayley:were you, were you ever afraid that he would leave you Yeah. By withholding that?
Alicia:Yeah. But I knew that like, if God was calling me to be in that relationship, then he would make a way. Yeah. So I think I just had to literally put all my trust in him. And there is a lot of freedom in that, but it is terrifying. And there was a lot of, there was a lot of hard times we went through after that. There's a lot of ups and downs. Obviously the enemy's gonna try to come in because here we are choosing purity. Yeah. Which he hates. But it was honestly the best thing I could have done because from that came more respect, better communication. So many other areas of our relationship grew stronger from just making that decision. And God was kind of blessing it. Mm. You know, gosh, it's so hard. Yeah. And but it's also so good at the same time. It's like you're basically putting it on reverse. Yeah.
Kayley:I feel like it's different if you don't have sex
Alicia:Yeah.
Kayley:Before marriage and then all of a sudden you are, it's like you've never established that normalcy. Um, but to go a certain distance and then say like, we've gotta actually go back to the beginning. Yeah.
Alicia:I feel like, like you're un marrying them. I was basically married already. Yeah. You know? Wow. Based on how I was living, I was already married.
Kayley:So what was the process of walking through that?'cause it really was several months that you were Yeah. Well you, you first got the call and then Yeah. You contended with how to obey. Yeah. What was it like breaking the news to him?
Alicia:Ugh, it was tough. I'm trying to remember the exact moment. Sorry babe. But I mean, I feel like it went, I think it went a little bit better than I originally expected, but after that came some hard times. Like, I think, I think for him it was like a feeling of rejection. Yeah. Like I was rejecting him and, and God also had to reveal to me his side of it too. Mm-hmm. Um, like where he was in his walk in faith, um, I've obviously kind of dove in with two feet and was just like pursuing God fully. Um, and we both, we both believe in the Lord. It's just like he is on his own journey and I'm on mine. So I think for him, at first it was like, yeah, like is she, is she, does she not love me anymore? Wow. You know? And I had to communicate like this has nothing to do with that. But That's so interesting because I think a lot of men, they feel the connection and they feel the love through sex. Yeah. And so if my woman is. Withholding this from me. Yeah. They probably feel it as withholding. Yeah. That's, and that means that I'm being rejected. Yeah.
Kayley:But what happens, and this is why I think it's so important to wait for marriage because it allows you to build that emotional bond Yeah. With your future spouse and say, we are going to know what it is to love one another. Yeah. Without the physical. Mm-hmm. We're gonna know how, what we're gonna learn what it is to love one another with Holy Spirit guiding our actions. Yeah. And guiding our behavior. And I mean, what a good like, healing exercise for him in a backwards way of like, yeah, okay. I'm not gonna have sex with you'cause we're not married and I wanna wait for this and the Lord's calling me to do this. Mm-hmm. And in the meantime, you're gonna feel the pain of like, oh, this feels like rejection. And now you get to learn what real love is. Yeah. Because it's not just us being in bed.
Alicia:Yeah. And I literally just had to trust, I literally had to trust every single day. And I think that's what I go back to my favorite verse when I first. Found out about God was Proverbs 3:5-6, which is trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding in all your ways submit to him and he will make your paths straight. So I feel like the beginning of 2025, I was like, I literally need to surrender every single aspect of my life because the creator of all things knows what's better for me. Yeah. Than I know for myself. So I literally had to surrender every single day. It wasn't just like I made this decision and then nothing happened. It's like I had to be in the word every day, had to be praying every day, and he somehow gives you this sense of peace and joy that you just don't understand even when you're going through the hard times. Like he just is so loving and so caring and just like walks you through it, even though it's so hard. It was kind of like, no matter the cost, this is what, this is what I need to do. Yeah. Because it's actually gonna be beneficial in the long run, even if he can't see that right now.
Kayley:So. Now that you're married. Mm-hmm. What has been the fruit of obeying in this area?
Alicia:So I think just like, I think marriage has become such an important thing to him. Like I feel like he honors it more Uhhuh. I think he honors the union more. We both do, like, I think it just holds so much more weight. You know, like I feel like we're living in a world where so many people get married and then get divorced and they get married and divorced. Like it's nothing. And, but when we look at scripture, it's like marriage is like it's so important and it's like to do it God's way just felt more, it just felt right. Yeah. You know? And basically with how everything came together for my wedding, he kind of proved that to me,
Kayley:which I actually wanna talk about that because your whole like wedding story is pretty insane. And I mean, you're definitely, you're not a bridezilla by any means. Like you are so easy, free, flow, happy. I mean you're type A, but you're also Yeah, so easy at the same time. And um, anyway, tell that story'cause it's pretty amazing.
Alicia:So there's a lot to it. But if I'm like, 'cause I'm thinking of like there's signs and stuff that happened before that, there's things that he revealed to me leading up to that. Um, but I do remember one moment when we were at church, um, for a girl's night and there was one point when God's like, or when the pastor's like, I want you to leave something on the altar and God's like your marriage. Like, that's the first thing that came to my mind and the whole service, I'm like, is there something else though? Is it really my marriage or is it's something, no, it's your marriage. So I wrote it, surrendered it, um. Then that night, which I'd have to like, I'd have to like back up. But basically when I was fasting earlier in the year, God kind of revealed to me a dear, um, and it was just a picture in my living room that I saw, but for some reason that day it came alive and I was like, longing for the Lord's presence. And then he brought me to all the scripture on deer and it was like exactly a aligned with what I was going through. Mm. And it almost kind of ca became like a sign that deer. Um, so the night that I put that on the altar, I was in the car, um, with a friend chatting and all of a sudden these deer just come like walking by the car. And I just took that like, okay, you got this.
Kayley:Why do you think he wanted you to put that on the altar?
Alicia:I think he just wanted me to fully trust him with it.
Kayley:Because at that time, like you didn't know if you were even gonna get married. Yeah,
Alicia:I was planning it for like towards the fall. Um. But none, none of the plans were falling into place.'cause I was trying to take control of it. Mm. And I think he just wanted me to be like, I got it. Like, just give it to me. Mm. And I'll make it better.
Kayley:But were you afraid in giving it to him that it also may culminate in you not getting married at all?
Alicia:Yeah.
Kayley:So it was like, I'm giving you this relationship whether or not I get married to this man.
Alicia:Yeah. Oof. It's just a full surrender. Like literally had to trust, like whatever God thinks is best for my life is what's gonna happen. And there was another sign that kind of came up and it's something that's been in our relationship, our, our whole relationship. Like he's always had addresses with 22. His firefighting number was 2, 2, 1. Our first house number was 22. We put an offer on our house on oh 2, 0 2 20 22. Wow. Like, it was just like always that number. So there was like one morning and my parents, um, were living in The Bahamas at the time and they weren't gonna come visit me. They were gonna go straight home. And my mom's like, I think I need to come see you. Like, I just wanna come see you. And I felt this urge of like, do I need to get married? Like the night before? You just outta nowhere. Yeah. Like, I'm like, do I need to plan my wedding? Maybe I just plan, maybe I just go to the courthouse and get married. Is that what he wants? And then I woke up the next day and I'm kind of spending time with the Lord and he's like, I want you to go to the 22nd book of the Bible. Like, I just felt that that nudge, and it was like Song of Songs, which is such a random book that I've never really read. But when I opened it, it was titled The Wedding Day. Mm. And something in my spirit in that moment was like, oh, you want me to plan my wedding today? Like it, it was just like a knowing. It was so weird. It was just a knowing. And I literally planned the whole thing within two weeks and every, every single detail fell into place. My hairdresser was free. Who happened to cancel two weddings prior to that? And she's like, I think God left it open for you. My photographer was free. Um, so wait,
Kayley:we have to back this up because like, you really just, you planned the wedding in like a day.
Alicia:Yeah. One day
Kayley:you planned your wedding in one day. Mm-hmm. But then, but also you planned your wedding in one day, two weeks from the wedding day. Yeah. So that's, that's pretty big. Like you planned your wedding two weeks in advance of it in one day. Yeah. And it was just the lord,
Alicia:and it was so effortless.
Kayley:So effortless.
Alicia:And I'm knowing my past. I'm such a planner. Yeah. So it was weird for me, right? Yeah. Like, I was like, oh, this is gonna take months to plan. But he just like, it's literally like, he's like, forget about your schedule for today and this is what you're gonna do. And I just reached out to each person, even my alterations girl. I already went in for a dress fitting and my next fitting was gonna be in June. And I messaged her and I was like, I can get a new dress, but like, if somehow you can fit me in, she's like, we're gonna make this work. You're gonna come and have a fitting this weekend. He literally figured out every single detail, my venue was free. Wow. You know, like people were offering to do things. All my family booked their flights that day. Wow. With no hesitation. Wow. And it's single detail. It's just so clear. Yeah.
Kayley:and then when we know that God is in the story, we have so much confidence that that's what we're supposed to be doing. Yeah. Like God made a way, God made the nudge and gave everyone peace to plan immediately to book immediately. It's just so clearly he was in the story. Yeah.
Alicia:And I think I just knew that like I, like there's so many other moments that happen that like I could go into, but it's like he made it so clear that his hand was on every single detail. And I just knew, I was just like, okay, this is gonna happen your way. I couldn't have done that myself. No, there's no way.
Kayley:And of course I was a fly on the wall and I mean, simultaneously I was in another friend's wedding, like literally overlapping. Mm-hmm. And, um, her wedding was really a fast paced planning thing as well, but they were very, very different. And I've also seen other, other marriages and other weddings where the bride is planning two years out and it's so consuming and yeah. It's, it's such a huge deal and everything has to be perfect. And I mean, my own wedding, like, I don't know, I, I, I think watching you get married and seeing how effortless it was, you were, there was no stress Yeah. Whatsoever. Everything just fell into place. Yeah. There was no contending of like, what do I do? What colors, what are my choices? It just, you took, you took off all of the fluff.
Alicia:Yeah.
Kayley:And you made it about getting married.
Alicia:Yeah.
Kayley:Which is so beautiful. It's like, I think so often we think about the party, we think about the celebration, and we forget it's a marriage. We're getting married to somebody. We're, yeah. Joining someone with someone in unity, in oneness before God. And gosh, he just was preparing your heart for all of that this whole time with the obedience and like,
Alicia:yeah. I think he literally needed me to walk through all these little, and there's other moments of obedience that happened before that, but it's like he needed me to walk through all those to prepare me, you know, to surrender this to him. Yeah. And just trust him. And I think the funny thing is, is I never wanted a big wedding. I wanted something really simple, really easy. So he literally gave me what I desired. Mm. In it all too.
Kayley:Which is like if you chase after the de, if you, what is it you chase after the desires of God's heart? Like he will give you your desires too. Yeah. Or desire God. And he will give you your heart's desires. I know it's in Psalm 37. Yeah. But, um, I, it's just so true. It's like all the things that you could want Yeah. All the things that I could want. God knows what those things are and he's like, if you just first seek me, yeah. Desire me and I will make all of those things come true. Yeah. It's like we don't have to worry, like, am I gonna get what I want? Am I gonna get what I want? Desire me. Yeah. And I'll give you your hearts desires.
Alicia:And did some people think I was crazy? Probably. And that's the thing, like, it's like there was people who judged like the waiting until marriage. There was people who probably thought like, how is she getting married in two weeks? Is she pregnant? Like, is something going on? Yeah. But it was just all the Lord, like he just, he just planned it all he knew. And in that there was so much peace. Like I, I feel like I didn't have any stress. I feel like that's how it should be. Yeah. You know, because I hear, all I hear about brides is like, how stressful it was. Like they were so stressed and then once the day's over, it's like, that's it. I put all this time and effort into this wedding and then it's just over.
Kayley:Yeah. You know? Which is so sad. It's kind of heartbreaking in a way. Yeah. Because you feel like that's your purpose for a season to plan a wedding. Yeah. It's like, man, if we put our value as who we are into the purpose of planning a wedding, yeah. We're gonna be a little defeated after it's done. Yeah.
Alicia:I don't think there's anything wrong with having a big wedding either. I think it's just like, it's whatever. It's just trusting God with it. Yeah. You know, like I feel like if you have God at the center in planning it, even if it's big or small, like you're gonna have peace and he's gonna guide each each step. Right.
Kayley:So, you know. You're talking about how like you appreciate marriage that much more because of Yeah. The abstinence leading up to it. Do you feel like your husband values you more?
Alicia:Mm-hmm.
Kayley:In what ways do you think?
Alicia:Just in like how he talks and like I feel like he's so proud to be married. Like there's been so many instances and he's a musician as well, that he's been on stage and he's just so happy to say I'm his wife. Like it's, it's, it means so much to him. And like even when I asked him about waiting until marriage, like on the wedding night, I'm like, is it mean something more to you now? And he's like, yeah, it does.
Kayley:Wow. And y'all had been together for seven years? Yeah. I mean, that's a long time. Yeah. And now you're in your eighth or ninth year I guess, at this point?
Alicia:Yeah. I think it'll be eight years this year.
Kayley:And that's a big deal. Yeah. I mean, most people are tired of each other by that time. Because you've been living as a married couple for this long and Yeah. Now he's like, wow, this is my wife.
Alicia:Mm-hmm. He's brought us through so much prior to that. Mm-hmm. Like so many encounters happened together.
Kayley:Yeah.
Alicia:Um, even up to the fact that like, his daughter's name, like was always the name I wanted to name my daughter. And when I met him, he's like, this is my daughter's name, Lily. And I'm just like, I've wanted to name. That's the name I've always had picked out. Yeah. So it's interesting
Kayley:you're coming into the role of stepmom as well. Yeah.'cause she's, she's older. She's, you know. Yeah, I know. She's 15. Yeah. Is she 15? Yeah. And that's a whole nother story. Yeah. But how beautiful is that?
Alicia:That's why I knew like, he's gonna finish this. Like if this, if it's his will for this to happen, like it's, it's gonna happen. I just have to trust him. And he proved it to me. He's like, okay, you're gonna do this in two weeks and I'm gonna take care of all the details for you.
Kayley:So where do you feel like God is telling you to obey now?
Alicia:So this is the funny thing is now that that has happened, then I'm like, now what? You know, like the big wedding is over. Like I have my own business and that's one area where I feel like I still try to be in control of. Mm-hmm. And he's like, I just planned your whole wedding. Why aren't you surrendering your business to me?
Kayley:What do you think that looks like though for you? You're a graphic designer. Yeah. You're your own entity. You don't have any employees. What do you think he's asking with that?
Alicia:To just fully trust him. Like he is going to provide the work. He's going to use me to help other businesses. And just like, it, it makes you look, it made me look at my business differently. It's not just about like getting a job and getting a paycheck. Mm. It's like there's a bigger purpose there. And just trusting that he's also gonna help me be creative, like he's a creator. And I'm a creator. And he started to show me that in some visions where I got visions of logos. Mm. And it's like, why don't I just pray before I design? Mm. Why wasn't I doing that? And I started doing it like shortly after the wedding. And I noticed, like even with productivity, I'm just like, okay, I don't know how I'm gonna get everything done today, so I need to just give it all to you. And, and I did. And sometimes there would be things that would take me five hours that took me an hour just because I surrendered it to him.
Kayley:Submit all your ways into him and he will make your path straight. Yeah. Like literally how often have I gotten off the straight path? And I've literally done these winding circles. Yeah. I'm literally like, the path is right here, like straight ahead of me. And I'm off doing circles in la la Yeah. Because I'm not submitting my, my stuff to him. And, and, and then I'm like, toiling. And then I'm frustrated and I'm exhausted at the end of the day.
Alicia:Yeah.
Kayley:Feeling like there's nothing to say for my exhaustion except that I was running in circles and
Alicia:Yeah.
Kayley:I mean, that happened a little bit with just getting this podcast off and like the issues I had with technology on websites and I, I, it was driving me bonkers. I'm like, what is this? Is the enemy sitting in my computer? Is the devil in my keyboard? What's going on?
Alicia:Yeah.
Kayley:And I think some of it was true because I think the enemy wants to oppose anything where our, our, like God is calling us towards. But also I'm like, did I submit this to him? Did I submit my day's work to him or did I just wanna do what I wanted to do? Yeah.
Alicia:It's a control thing.
Kayley:It's such a control thing. Yeah. It's like my impulse. I feel like sometimes I'm a slave to my own impulses of like, oh, I'm gonna do this. But then there are other times where I feel like my impulses are heaven sent.
Alicia:Yeah.
Kayley:And then I see the fruit of like going forward in something that God is like, yeah, I wanted you to go there.
Alicia:Some things that you don't even realize. No. They happen and you're like, oh, I just impulsively did this and your hand was on at all. I know. Without even knowing. I
Kayley:know. Okay. Well actually, so this let's, let's talk about our weekend that we just had. Yeah. Okay.'cause what is today? It's May something. No, no, it's June 3rd. June. It's June 3rd. Yeah.
Alicia:June
Kayley:3rd. Okay. So we were just in Florida this past weekend. I wanted to go see my mom for her birthday, and Allegiant Airlines has a hundred dollars round trip. And so I was like, I'm going to Florida and we're gonna go to the beach and we're gonna see my mom. And I was like, Alicia, why don't you come with, I mean, so easy. Just hop on the plane. And so we went and as we're we're, we're getting picked up from the airport and we decided to go straight to the beach with my family. And on our way back into Fort Myers, Florida, she's like, well, I wanna see your own old stomping grounds. Like, I wanna see your high school. Yeah. And I was like, okay, yeah, that could be kind of cool. Wait, actually we leave like Monday afternoon, maybe we can go in Monday and I can like talk to the kids or whatever. Yeah. And I reach out to my old English teacher and I say, Hey, um, are you teaching on Monday?'cause I wanna come into your classroom. And she goes, oh. I actually retired two years ago when my son passed away. And her son was like three or four years younger than me. And when I read that message, I was like, my heart just shattered for her. And all of a sudden, like the impulse I had was, I need to buy her flowers and I need to do something for her. Like, I don't know why, but I need to. And then she messages me again and says, you know, my son's birthday. Is on Monday, it's June 2nd. And I'm like, man, I'm here for my mom's birthday, which is also on June 2nd I was like, Hey, I wanna mail you my favorite devotional, which is Streams in the Desert. It got me through the hardest time. Can I have your address? Sneakily got her address so that I could literally show up on her doorstep with flowers. Yeah. And the actual devotional in my hand. And we did that the day we left on Monday. And uh, when I got there, and this is all your fault, Alicia, because you're like, I wanna go to your high school and see your stomping grounds. I'm like, let me call my teacher. And because of that I had now this impulse of. I need to bless her. I want to bless her. And I could have just seen her message and said, I'm so sorry. I'm gonna pray for you. Yeah. But no, I was like, we've got to do something more. We get flowers, get the devotional show up on our doorstep. Her husband answers the door, has no idea who I am. And I'm like, he's looking at me like I'm some weirdo. And I'm like, no, I, I'm actually your, your wife's student from a while ago. He's like, oh, you're the singer. And I was like, he knows who I am. This is great. And, uh, and so then he's like, well, she's in the shower. And I was like, it's okay. I, I can wait.
Alicia:Yeah.
Kayley:And he goes, well, come on in. And she comes outta the shower. She's wearing a bathrobe. She got her hair and a, like, her wet hair's wet. And she just, I hug her and she falls into my, onto my shoulder just weeping. And I'm just like, ah, that's so good. Like, she need, and she's, she's told me, she said, I needed this so bad. Yeah. And I was like, man, this is why we obey. It's like, it's always a good thing to have a word of encouragement and to show up. It's like. This desire, I had to see her. Yeah. Knowing that her son who passed away way before he should have, yeah. He was probably late twenties. It was a motorcycle accident where someone ran, this woman ran a red light and killed him in an intersection. He was on his way to work. He'd just gotten back from teaching English and Bangkok like, this kid had so much promise. Yeah. And here he is, he's passed away and now it's his birthday. And his mom is still grieving. Of course. Yeah. Because she's, how do you not, like, how do you not just grieve? Yeah. And so anyway, it was, that was this, that was literally yesterday. Yeah. That we surprised her. And um,
Alicia:but just shows like how God works. Like Yeah. When you don't even realize it. And I feel like he puts those desires on our heart. Like he changes our heart. And that's why you wanted to do that for her, you know? Yeah. And that made her whole day,
Kayley:oh my gosh. She needed it.
Alicia:Yeah, she needed it so bad.
Kayley:And we just don't know what's on the other side of our obedience. Mm-hmm. Like I didn't have to go do that. No. And you said something yesterday, you said Salvation.
Alicia:What did you say? I said obedience is the only thing that leads to salvation. Because if we look through all of scripture, like when I'm reading all the stories, it's like someone had to obey God in order to go out and share the gospel. Wow. Yeah. You know, or like there's so many, there's so much scripture and obedience just keeps coming up over and over again all throughout the Bible. But it's like if we don't obey God and we don't follow his will, how will anyone know about him? Yeah. You know, because we, we can't do it on our own. No. We need his strength. We need the Holy Spirit.
Kayley:So what do you do when like. Have, or have you ever had an instance where God has called you to obey in something and you didn't know why and you did it and you're waiting to see like, okay, where's the fruit of this?
Alicia:it's interesting you say that because I feel like I got, I got convicted about the marriage thing I think a year prior, and I actually didn't follow through with it.'cause I was still early in my walk in faith. Yeah. Because like, I didn't, I wasn't ready to trust him yet. Interesting. Yeah. you're so unsure and he, I mean, he guides you and he gives you a peace every day when you surrender, but you're still just kind of like, okay, Lord. Like what is, what does this look like? Yeah. How do I walk this out every day? Is it gonna end the way I think?
Kayley:Yeah.
Alicia:Or is it gonna be, are you gonna take me down a whole other path? And just trusting that. Right.
Kayley:Well, and I remember watching you in that season, like when we met Yeah. When we really became friends. You were engaged living with him. And I just thought to myself, I'm like, if she's chasing God the way I know she is mm-hmm. He's gonna convict her. And I knew I didn't have to say anything as your friend. Yeah. Like of course I wanted to ask you questions like, Hey, do you, you know?
Alicia:Yeah.
Kayley:What does God say about the way you're living? And um, but I knew I just didn't need to. Yeah. Which I think is another word. It's like, sometimes the best way to love our friends is to just push them to Jesus. Yeah. And not push rules on them. Yeah. And because I knew like. I know what living in sin is, you know, like I've, I've lived in my own sin, you know? Yeah. And so, but to be your friend on the outside and just watching you wrestle it out with the Lord and just encourage you, when I knew I needed to encourage you, but not say like, Hey, by the way. Yeah. Like, I don't, I think that would've pushed you away from me, honestly.
Alicia:Well, yeah. It's interesting how he, like, he does that, right? Like, it's like it's, there's, there are times he calls us to say things and then there's times where we just have to let the people go through it, walk it out, walk it out. And, and I knew even if it's hard,
Kayley:but I knew, I was like, the fruit of her life is so evident to me. Mm-hmm. She is chasing God down. She's spending daily time with him. Yeah. There's no way he's not gonna reveal something to her to convict her. Yeah. And sure enough, he did. And the day you told me, I was just like, I just had to worship God. I was like, wow, I'm so happy because It's just so good, you know?'cause like when you're convicted to obey and then you obey, your life gets better. Yeah.
Alicia:It's literally like the best thing. Like when you hear the word obedience, it sounds scary. Yeah. It sounds like you have to follow rules. Yeah. Or hard. Why would I wanna obey someone? I just wanna do what I want. Like we're living in a world where everyone's like, let's just do what we want all the time, whatever that looks like. But what I've learned is like, I've done that. I've done it my own way. I've done whatever I want for so many years. And this, this year in particular is the year that I've walked the most in obedience. And it has been the best year of my life. Ah,
Kayley:can we say it again For the people in the back
Alicia:walking in obedience this year? has been the best year of my life. I've made the best friends, I've gotten married. I've had more joy and peace than I've ever had. And I feel like that is evident. Like, I feel like that's why a lot of people haven't, I mean, I'm sure they're probably questioning like, why would she do that? But I think they can see the joy that I have. Yeah. And they're just kind of curious about it. Yeah. And they're like, what is this? You know? Yeah. And it's like, I've done life without him. Yeah. And it sucks. And it sucks. There's moments that are good, there's like little moments that are happy, you know, when you get a new job or like you move into a house, like
Kayley:you get a puppy.
Alicia:Yeah. Like you, you get excited in those moments, but it's like, it's not a joy like the Lord gives where it's like a daily thing. Like he just, even when you're going through hard times, like this was also one of the hardest years of my life, but because I had him, it was, it was easy.'cause he gave me the joy he gave me the ability to walk it out.
Kayley:It just makes it rich. And that's why like, one of my favorite verses is, um, you know, the enemy comes to steal, kill, and destroy. But I come to give you a rich and satisfying life. Yeah. That's what Jesus says. It's like, yeah, the enemy wanted to take you out. Yeah. He wanted to put you in so much fear. Yeah. That if you really obeyed God, you would lose your relationship with your now husband. You would, I don't know, be rejected by all these different people. Yeah. Like the alcohol. Oh, if, well, if you stop drinking, you're gonna lose all your friends or whatever the enemy he wants to steal your desire to obey and he wants to kill your destiny. He, like you are on track to do wonderful things in the kingdom because God, he's seeing how you're obeying him. And he's like, I trust her. I trust her to share the word. I trust her to share her testimony with people. I trust her to come on Bible Bish and talk about scary things. Like he's just, he's just, you're just proving that you're trustworthy. For the things he has for you and wants to share with you, and therefore your testimony is more strengthened and emboldened. And you get to tell your story like you are today. And I know there are people that need to hear this. There are people that are, that are feeling convicted to not have sex. Yeah. To wait.
Alicia:Like I want purity to be popular.
Kayley:Yes. Let's make purity popular. Make purity popular again. Purity. I gotta, we,
Alicia:it's almost like you wanna just win against the devil. Yeah. Like he's taking control over the world and he's confused so many people. Yes. And people are living in sin and so depressed and more anxiety and depression. More suicide. Yeah. More everything. And it's like, I wanna show people like you can be free from that. Yes. Because of Jesus. Literally, like you don't have to live a slave to that anymore. And I think the more you walk with God, the more you see. And it's not coming from a place of judgment. Yeah. For people who are sinning, it's like you're watching people's lives be destroyed because of sin, and you just want so badly for them to see like there's a better way,
Kayley:there's a better way,
Alicia:and God's way is better.
Kayley:It's so much better. Like it's, I literally, I have the time of my life not being in charge of my life. Yeah.
Alicia:It's freeing. It's why do we wanna be in control? No, it's not.
Kayley:I just like, Lord, anytime something disrupts my plans for the day, in the past I would get so upset. But now maturity has shown me like, wait, wait, wait, wait. The Lord can use this. Yeah. Because even if the devil came like wanted to come in and upset my day, even if it started with him. Yeah. I know what scripture says. Scripture says what the devil means to harm you, the Lord can use for good. Mm-hmm. And so when it ever, anything bad happens, I'm like, okay, Lord, what are you gonna do? Yeah. What do you get to do with this? Because there's something good that's gonna happen from this. Yeah.
Alicia:And it, and we have to experience those hard times.'cause that's what builds our character. Yeah. That's what helps us persevere. Yeah. And continue going. And also that's what makes us rely on him. If we never had any struggles or challenges, why would we, why would we need him? Yeah. We would just do it ourself.
Kayley:Yes. We'd be our God.
Alicia:So he has to bring us through these hard seasons to grow us. Yeah. And help us to rely on him more.
Kayley:Well, and the thing is, we're gonna go through hard seasons with or without him. Yeah. Wouldn't we rather just have him on our side? I, I, I really equate like, even, even being a Christian, it's like, say you're on an airplane, everybody's a Christian. I heard this analogy one time and it just blew my mind. It was so good. Like, okay, we all embark. We're all getting on the plane. We all have the same destination. Yeah. Yet some people on the plane are white knuckling it because they're terrified and some people on the plane are having a nap. Yeah. It's like, that is what faith looks like. The faith is you get to take a nap. Yeah. On the way to your destination, we're all going to the same place. Mm-hmm. Or you can white knuckle it and be mad and try to jerk the wheel out of God's hands and be upset with everything he's doing. Yeah. And not believe the word he says, not believe his promises. You can believe all the doubts that the enemy wants to plant in your spirit. Yeah. You can have terrible friends. Like, I mean, like if I'm gonna believe I wanna have peace too. Yeah. Right. I wanna, I wanna take a nap on the plane, man.
Alicia:And you, and you think about all the other, like even just flying, for example, I think about all the things I used to worry about, like what is gonna happen when I land? Where am I going, what am I doing? Yes. And now I'm just like, I don't know wherever God's gonna take me.
Kayley:Yeah. Which is so good because you are so type A. Mm-hmm. And for you to just be so yeah. Happy to do whatever. Yeah. Not, not need to know all the details.
Alicia:I feel like that's also why God gave me my husband, because he is like that. He's just so spontaneous and early on in our relationship he'd be like, we're doing this. And it would be so last minute. And I'm just like, what? Like I didn't plan this out. And so he knew, he knew when he picked him for me, that that's what I needed. And it's like, it's just so freeing not to, like, I'm even hearing some people when we're traveling and they're like, they're like, oh my gosh, like I gotta land. I gotta get my, am I gonna get my rental car? Like all these fears are going through their mind and it's like, just, just trust. You know?
Kayley:Just trust. And it's the little things, it's like the small obedience and we compound it. Yeah. Like there are big things he calls us to obey and, and then there's small things that he calls us to obey. in which is something as simple as saying hello to a gas station worker or someone at the gas station be like, Hey, I wanna tell you. Like the Lord loves you. Yeah. Like anytime he puts that on our heart to share, it's like that's, it's the little bit of obedience. Yeah. Alicia, I love you so much and I'm so glad you're my friend because I, you know, a powerful friendship to me is one where like we encourage and edify each other and when I'm going through it, you just love me. Like I have complained to high heaven. You've heard me get frustrated and upset, and you just. You're, you're like a sentinel, just so patient and you remind me of God's truth and you remind me of God's word and you don't judge me and you just call me higher. And that's like the mark of a really good kingdom friend. And I love watching your story of obedience. It's so encouraging to me. I know it encourages others. And so I'm so glad that you came on this today and everybody listening, I hope that you were encouraged by her too.'cause she is just an angel. She's an angel and she looks so good in pink. You should go on YouTube and watch the video because you'll see the
Alicia:as terrified as I was.
Kayley:Yeah. She was so terrified to do this today. She's got this fear of public speaking and you know, it's so funny 'cause the Lord is continuously bringing her into a place of speaking. Yeah. And sharing her story. And so I want you to tell everybody, one last thing. I want you to finish this sentence. Obedience is worth it because?
Alicia:Because it's so fun. It is like, it's so fun. Obedience is actually fun.
Kayley:What's he gonna do? What's he gonna do? What's he gonna do?
Alicia:It's like an adventure. It's an adventure. It's like you're being a rebel. Yes. In the world. Yes. You know,
Kayley:A rebel to the world.
Alicia:Yeah. And there'll be a lot of people who are like, why are you doing that? Or you don't need to do that. You know,
Kayley:doubters, naysayers, you've already slept together. Does it matter? Yes. But it does.
Alicia:It does to God. It does. And it's just always remembering. And that's why we study the word every single day is because like, it helps us remember who God is. Yeah. It's so good. You know? And what he, he knows what's best for us. He literally created all of us. Yeah. How can we know what's better for us than he does? Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. Nope. When you think about it, it literally makes no sense. It doesn't. And when you start walking with him, you start to realize the truth. Yeah. And he just is like. He just knows.
Kayley:He knows. Well, y'all, there you have it. From the mouth of Alicia, thank you so much for tuning in. There was a lot of tea that we shared today. Mm-hmm. Um, and I, I hope that it changed to you in some way. I hope it's transforming you. I hope it's gonna give you some encouragement to go live in obedience. I know each and every one of you are feeling a nudge to obey. And that's between you and God. I don't know what that nudge is, but I just wanna encourage you right now, like he sees you. If he's calling you to do something, he's gonna finish the story with you and you can hold him to it. All those areas in in which you're afraid to, to to walk, afraid to perform that thing that he's calling you to do, just put it back on him. Be like, God, yeah, you're calling me to do this. I'm gonna do it, and I expect you to be there for me. And I'm telling you, he will be there for you. And so, yeah, you don't have to fear and listen. You're about to embark on a really, really fun life.'cause I have a fun life and it's not painless. It's not. Fear free because we, you know, we are, I'm still encountering fear every day, but the Lord tells me to squash it. He says, do not fear 365 times in His Word. And we're constantly spitting fear in the face. And so with that, we love you. I hope that you go forward today blessed and encouraged. Thank you for tuning into Bible Bish. And before I forget, go on biblebish.com Tell me your testimony. Leave me your story. Tell me how this podcast has encouraged you today. I wanna celebrate it. I wanna talk about it and I wanna yeah, encourage you. And so with that, we love you. Bye. Don't forget to subscribe.